Discussion:
POS devices with SO/driver
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William Stacey
2009-01-07 06:16:26 UTC
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This link is dead. I just want a list of devices that have SO and POS
support. I am finding nothing but case studies on the wpos site which is
frustrating.
http://www.windowsembeddeddevices.com/wepos/default.aspx

Also, were are all the samples? I find almost nothing on the web and have
looked for an hour. The sdk contains almost no sample code. This is very
strange.
TIA
--William
Sean Liming (MVP)
2009-01-07 19:08:59 UTC
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The listing in the past wasn't very complete. I have some information
here:http://www.seanliming.com/WEPOS.html
--
Regards,

Sean Liming
www.sjjmicro.com / www.seanliming.com
Author: Windows Embedded for Point of Service / POS for .NET Step-by-Step
http://www.sjjmicro.com/WEPOS.html
Post by William Stacey
This link is dead. I just want a list of devices that have SO and POS
support. I am finding nothing but case studies on the wpos site which is
frustrating.
http://www.windowsembeddeddevices.com/wepos/default.aspx
Also, were are all the samples? I find almost nothing on the web and have
looked for an hour. The sdk contains almost no sample code. This is very
strange.
TIA
--William
William Stacey
2009-01-07 20:38:35 UTC
Permalink
Thanks Sean! That is about the best info in one place I have seen so far.
1) Do you happen to have a recommendation for a card reader that reads bar
codes (i.e. employee badge)?
2) Has MS released an SO for their own Fingerprint reader (for the
Biometrics class)? If not, has any vendor? I am using the GrFinger sdk at
the moment, but it has a few minor issues in the .Net library (i.e. always
throws an exception in finialize method with some corrupt memory error).

Not to boil the ocean here, but it seems this whole pattern would fit more
natural into the CCR pattern with a single port for each device and single
port for explorer notifications. After all, all these random inputs more
closely resemble robotics then anything else. Should be able to play with
Maestro soon for a high road solution for controlled concurrency in a
managed language (which also uses the CCR under the covers).

--William Stacey
Post by Sean Liming (MVP)
The listing in the past wasn't very complete. I have some information
here:http://www.seanliming.com/WEPOS.html
--
Regards,
Sean Liming
www.sjjmicro.com / www.seanliming.com
Author: Windows Embedded for Point of Service / POS for .NET Step-by-Step
http://www.sjjmicro.com/WEPOS.html
Post by William Stacey
This link is dead. I just want a list of devices that have SO and POS
support. I am finding nothing but case studies on the wpos site which is
frustrating.
http://www.windowsembeddeddevices.com/wepos/default.aspx
Also, were are all the samples? I find almost nothing on the web and
have looked for an hour. The sdk contains almost no sample code. This is
very strange.
TIA
--William
Sean Liming (MVP)
2009-01-07 22:28:15 UTC
Permalink
William,

Because of the cost of the equipment, I have limited access to POS hardware.
Some vendors have been gracious enough to supply something for future book
updates and/or articles. The bar code scanners I have used are typical
retail scanners that use the sample SO from the POS for .NET SDK. I don't
have any recomendations on the type of scanner you are looking for.

I have seen a biometric scanner that MS has worked on. Sylvester La Blanc
just posted to the newsgroup that they will demonstrate a biometric reader
solution at NRF this month. He might be able to explain further.

Regards,

Sean Liming
www.sjjmicro.com / www.seanliming.com
Author: Windows Embedded for Point of Service / POS for .NET Step-by-Step
http://www.sjjmicro.com/WEPOS.html
Post by William Stacey
Thanks Sean! That is about the best info in one place I have seen so far.
1) Do you happen to have a recommendation for a card reader that reads
bar codes (i.e. employee badge)?
2) Has MS released an SO for their own Fingerprint reader (for the
Biometrics class)? If not, has any vendor? I am using the GrFinger sdk
at the moment, but it has a few minor issues in the .Net library (i.e.
always throws an exception in finialize method with some corrupt memory
error).
Not to boil the ocean here, but it seems this whole pattern would fit more
natural into the CCR pattern with a single port for each device and single
port for explorer notifications. After all, all these random inputs more
closely resemble robotics then anything else. Should be able to play with
Maestro soon for a high road solution for controlled concurrency in a
managed language (which also uses the CCR under the covers).
--William Stacey
Post by Sean Liming (MVP)
The listing in the past wasn't very complete. I have some information
here:http://www.seanliming.com/WEPOS.html
--
Regards,
Sean Liming
www.sjjmicro.com / www.seanliming.com
Author: Windows Embedded for Point of Service / POS for .NET Step-by-Step
http://www.sjjmicro.com/WEPOS.html
Post by William Stacey
This link is dead. I just want a list of devices that have SO and POS
support. I am finding nothing but case studies on the wpos site which
is frustrating.
http://www.windowsembeddeddevices.com/wepos/default.aspx
Also, were are all the samples? I find almost nothing on the web and
have looked for an hour. The sdk contains almost no sample code. This
is very strange.
TIA
--William
William Stacey
2009-01-08 01:22:03 UTC
Permalink
Thanks Sean. I was just wondering any device (bar code scanner) that
actually is known to work. I would rather not buy something to find out
later it does not work with the SO. It seems there is so little solid info
on device compat, it seems like hit and miss at the moment. Thanks for your
feedback.

Also, I noticed from your page you refer to the 3rd party POS CD with the
SO's on it. Is there a way to download those SO's for the .Net POS sdk or
do you have to buy the OS version? tia
Post by Sean Liming (MVP)
William,
Because of the cost of the equipment, I have limited access to POS
hardware. Some vendors have been gracious enough to supply something for
future book updates and/or articles. The bar code scanners I have used are
typical retail scanners that use the sample SO from the POS for .NET SDK.
I don't have any recomendations on the type of scanner you are looking
for.
I have seen a biometric scanner that MS has worked on. Sylvester La Blanc
just posted to the newsgroup that they will demonstrate a biometric reader
solution at NRF this month. He might be able to explain further.
Regards,
Sean Liming
www.sjjmicro.com / www.seanliming.com
Author: Windows Embedded for Point of Service / POS for .NET Step-by-Step
http://www.sjjmicro.com/WEPOS.html
Post by William Stacey
Thanks Sean! That is about the best info in one place I have seen so far.
1) Do you happen to have a recommendation for a card reader that reads
bar codes (i.e. employee badge)?
2) Has MS released an SO for their own Fingerprint reader (for the
Biometrics class)? If not, has any vendor? I am using the GrFinger sdk
at the moment, but it has a few minor issues in the .Net library (i.e.
always throws an exception in finialize method with some corrupt memory
error).
Not to boil the ocean here, but it seems this whole pattern would fit
more natural into the CCR pattern with a single port for each device and
single port for explorer notifications. After all, all these random
inputs more closely resemble robotics then anything else. Should be able
to play with Maestro soon for a high road solution for controlled
concurrency in a managed language (which also uses the CCR under the
covers).
--William Stacey
Post by Sean Liming (MVP)
The listing in the past wasn't very complete. I have some information
here:http://www.seanliming.com/WEPOS.html
--
Regards,
Sean Liming
www.sjjmicro.com / www.seanliming.com
Author: Windows Embedded for Point of Service / POS for .NET
Step-by-Step
http://www.sjjmicro.com/WEPOS.html
Post by William Stacey
This link is dead. I just want a list of devices that have SO and POS
support. I am finding nothing but case studies on the wpos site which
is frustrating.
http://www.windowsembeddeddevices.com/wepos/default.aspx
Also, were are all the samples? I find almost nothing on the web and
have looked for an hour. The sdk contains almost no sample code. This
is very strange.
TIA
--William
Sean Liming (MVP)
2009-01-08 02:43:47 UTC
Permalink
HandHeld (now Hioneywell) and Symbol (now Motorola) scanners are the ones I
have used. The model numbers should be listed on the page. I think the
Symbol was used in the Channel 9 video. You want a model that is a pure USB
HID device not a USB Keyboard. The scanners from HandHeld and Symbol can be
programmed into different modes. The USB Keyboard scanners like the WASP
will not work with the SO.

The WEPOS CD trial version had some SOs from various vendors. I didn't see
anything for the POSReady version.

Regards,

Sean Liming
www.sjjmicro.com / www.seanliming.com
Author: Windows Embedded for Point of Service / POS for .NET Step-by-Step
http://www.sjjmicro.com/WEPOS.html
Post by William Stacey
Thanks Sean. I was just wondering any device (bar code scanner) that
actually is known to work. I would rather not buy something to find out
later it does not work with the SO. It seems there is so little solid
info on device compat, it seems like hit and miss at the moment. Thanks
for your feedback.
Also, I noticed from your page you refer to the 3rd party POS CD with the
SO's on it. Is there a way to download those SO's for the .Net POS sdk or
do you have to buy the OS version? tia
Post by Sean Liming (MVP)
William,
Because of the cost of the equipment, I have limited access to POS
hardware. Some vendors have been gracious enough to supply something for
future book updates and/or articles. The bar code scanners I have used
are typical retail scanners that use the sample SO from the POS for .NET
SDK. I don't have any recomendations on the type of scanner you are
looking for.
I have seen a biometric scanner that MS has worked on. Sylvester La Blanc
just posted to the newsgroup that they will demonstrate a biometric
reader solution at NRF this month. He might be able to explain further.
Regards,
Sean Liming
www.sjjmicro.com / www.seanliming.com
Author: Windows Embedded for Point of Service / POS for .NET Step-by-Step
http://www.sjjmicro.com/WEPOS.html
Post by William Stacey
Thanks Sean! That is about the best info in one place I have seen so far.
1) Do you happen to have a recommendation for a card reader that reads
bar codes (i.e. employee badge)?
2) Has MS released an SO for their own Fingerprint reader (for the
Biometrics class)? If not, has any vendor? I am using the GrFinger sdk
at the moment, but it has a few minor issues in the .Net library (i.e.
always throws an exception in finialize method with some corrupt memory
error).
Not to boil the ocean here, but it seems this whole pattern would fit
more natural into the CCR pattern with a single port for each device and
single port for explorer notifications. After all, all these random
inputs more closely resemble robotics then anything else. Should be
able to play with Maestro soon for a high road solution for controlled
concurrency in a managed language (which also uses the CCR under the
covers).
--William Stacey
Post by Sean Liming (MVP)
The listing in the past wasn't very complete. I have some information
here:http://www.seanliming.com/WEPOS.html
--
Regards,
Sean Liming
www.sjjmicro.com / www.seanliming.com
Author: Windows Embedded for Point of Service / POS for .NET Step-by-Step
http://www.sjjmicro.com/WEPOS.html
Post by William Stacey
This link is dead. I just want a list of devices that have SO and POS
support. I am finding nothing but case studies on the wpos site which
is frustrating.
http://www.windowsembeddeddevices.com/wepos/default.aspx
Also, were are all the samples? I find almost nothing on the web and
have looked for an hour. The sdk contains almost no sample code. This
is very strange.
TIA
--William
Sylvester La Blanc MSFT
2009-01-31 04:03:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sean Liming (MVP)
William,
Because of the cost of the equipment, I have limited access to POS hardware.
Some vendors have been gracious enough to supply something for future book
updates and/or articles. The bar code scanners I have used are typical
retail scanners that use the sample SO from the POS for .NET SDK. I don't
have any recomendations on the type of scanner you are looking for.
I have seen a biometric scanner that MS has worked on. Sylvester La Blanc
just posted to the newsgroup that they will demonstrate a biometric reader
solution at NRF this month. He might be able to explain further.
Regards,
Sean Liming
www.sjjmicro.com / www.seanliming.com
Author: Windows Embedded for Point of Service / POS for .NET Step-by-Step
http://www.sjjmicro.com/WEPOS.html
Post by William Stacey
Thanks Sean! That is about the best info in one place I have seen so far.
1) Do you happen to have a recommendation for a card reader that reads
bar codes (i.e. employee badge)?
2) Has MS released an SO for their own Fingerprint reader (for the
Biometrics class)? If not, has any vendor? I am using the GrFinger sdk
at the moment, but it has a few minor issues in the .Net library (i.e.
always throws an exception in finialize method with some corrupt memory
error).
Not to boil the ocean here, but it seems this whole pattern would fit more
natural into the CCR pattern with a single port for each device and single
port for explorer notifications. After all, all these random inputs more
closely resemble robotics then anything else. Should be able to play with
Maestro soon for a high road solution for controlled concurrency in a
managed language (which also uses the CCR under the covers).
--William Stacey
Post by Sean Liming (MVP)
The listing in the past wasn't very complete. I have some information
here:http://www.seanliming.com/WEPOS.html
--
Regards,
Sean Liming
www.sjjmicro.com / www.seanliming.com
Author: Windows Embedded for Point of Service / POS for .NET Step-by-Step
http://www.sjjmicro.com/WEPOS.html
Post by William Stacey
This link is dead. I just want a list of devices that have SO and POS
support. I am finding nothing but case studies on the wpos site which
is frustrating.
http://www.windowsembeddeddevices.com/wepos/default.aspx
Also, were are all the samples? I find almost nothing on the web and
have looked for an hour. The sdk contains almost no sample code. This
is very strange.
TIA
--William
HandHeld has native .NET Service objects. Symbol has OPOS service
objects that can be used (you can use Symbol with the sample service
object included with the SDK in non-production environment with a few
tweaks. See the blog on how to do this - also see the Hands On lab on
the blog).

As for a list of service objects, because POS for .NET is part of a
standard that anybody is free to implement, there is no registry for
maintaing such a list.

As for the fingerprint reader, there is no SO for the Microsoft version.
Other vendors have been provided guidance for developing service
objects, but I don't know which ones have formally been published. I
demoed one at NRF. My best advice is to contact the vendor(s) of the
device you like in and ask if they have a .NET service objects. I wish
I could give you a more definitive answer, but as I said, there is no
registration of service objects.

- Sylvester
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2009-01-09 01:18:53 UTC
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Authentec has a POS for .NET SO for biometric reader. Try that.

I agree with you that the manufacturers do a horrible job of promoting
their WePOS controls and support. And most of them dont have good,
working controls.
And the so called experts in this area aren't very helpful either at
disseminating information. So you are pretty much on your own except
for what is available on sean's site and on the POS for .NET blog.


Symbol 2208 will read barcodes and works with POS for .NET. If you
read the team blog you would see this. I think some people dont want
to give you this information because they don't want to upset certain
manufacturers by recommending a competitors products.




Glad to be of help.
Thanks Sean!  That is about the best info in one place I have seen so far.
1)  Do you happen to have a recommendation for a card reader that reads bar
codes (i.e. employee badge)?
2) Has MS released an SO for their own Fingerprint reader (for the
Biometrics class)?  If not, has any vendor?  I am using the GrFinger sdk at
the moment, but it has a few minor issues in the .Net library (i.e. always
throws an exception in finialize method with some corrupt memory error).
Not to boil the ocean here, but it seems this whole pattern would fit more
natural into the CCR pattern with a single port for each device and single
port for explorer notifications.  After all, all these random inputs more
closely resemble robotics then anything else.  Should be able to play with
Maestro soon for a high road solution for controlled concurrency in a
managed language (which also uses the CCR under the covers).
--William Stacey
Post by Sean Liming (MVP)
The listing in the past wasn't very complete. I have some information
here:http://www.seanliming.com/WEPOS.html
--
Regards,
Sean Liming
www.sjjmicro.com/www.seanliming.com
Author: Windows Embedded for Point of Service / POS for .NET Step-by-Step
http://www.sjjmicro.com/WEPOS.html
This link is dead.  I just want a list of devices that have SO and POS
support.  I am finding nothing but case studies on the wpos site which is
frustrating.
http://www.windowsembeddeddevices.com/wepos/default.aspx
Also, were are all the samples?  I find almost nothing on the web and
have looked for an hour. The sdk contains almost no sample code.  This is
very strange.
TIA
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